Wow Sids & Stars what a great post. I am always amazed at the number of Vultures that want to circle any airline they don't like. Being in the Eastern state sort of gets you ready for the 3rd world scenario I expect. Certainly the wages are back in the 80s. With Air NZ a state run enterprise one can feel superior (although it should have gone down in 2001 because of so many reasons). Enjoy your command on first officer rates.....................