We are arguing semantics here Islander. It was not me that gave you anyt abuse on Flyer either for the record. It was rather Ian suggested that you were hammering home the point a little needlessly.
I simply maintain that while I am sure that a turn back is possible, for the average joe spam can driver it is unwise.
I am getting into no further debate with you on this Chris. I personally think you are wrong advocating it, you think you are right. That is not going to change. Fortunately you are not teaching so this will remain an armchair debate.