T4 - just to add to and clarify my point earlier about commercial pressure. I am certainly pleased that you do not feel the commercial pressure, but some do, and I must point out that I did not mean specifically the crew. Commercial pressure is probably felt more in the hangar and in the ops rooms than us stick monkeys. Fortunately I think these days the companies do a good job of protecting the flying crews, but I have seen many cases of commercial pressure manifesting itself in ops, even recently, especially now in financially difficult times. Incorrect lighting on decks or incorrect deck design as an example. We may be used to it, but we all know it is wrong, and commercial pressure is for management to get the job done anyway without making too much of a fuss. It doesn't normally present itself as a big issue, as we know/hope the oil company will sort it eventually, but as I said everything is a very long chain.