Thanks for that link to the pilot's lounge. A lot of interesting things are coming out in this thread. I used to be an FI, and I fly gliders and instruct on three axis microlights, so I can relate to a lot of peoples experiences here. The more I think about this, the more convinced I am that ALL pilots should be able to recover from a full spin, and a spiral dive, before their formal training is completed. The first time to see either one is not on your own, or even worse, with your unsuspecting friends on board. The point at issue for me is not if, but when.
Any thoughts?