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Old 16th February 2009 | 14:37
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anotherthing
 
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Firstly, why was there even a draft article stating we had postponed talks if there was no thought of doing so?

Are the Union pre-empting things?

Does this show the reality of what the Union intends to settle for?


The Union:
For clarity, both PCS and Prospect stand ready to enter into formal negotiations with management on the issue of pay and are exasperated by the lack of progress.

For clarity, in a context where NATS is scheduled to make significant profits this year and debate as to whether a dividend should be paid to shareholders, particularly against the backdrop of the recent pensions ballot, such a position as articulated by management to seek to impose a pay freeze will be met by a ballot of PCS and Prospect members on industrial action.
Yahoo!
Lets hope Garry can walk the walk too. I like the cut of his jib though.
I'm sorry, but in the statement from the union, I see nothing that makes me like the 'cut of his jib'. He has stated we are exasperated by the lack of progress. He has stated that if the management try to impose a pay freeze, we will ballot for industrial action.

If I was management, I would be very happy. No threat of working to rule or such like if management do not enter negotiations, just a 'feeling of exasperation'. Doesn't make me tremble.

How long do we continue to be exasperated before we move it to the next level???
What is the next level, trepidation???
How much longer do we allow this to be dragged on for, as recession deepens?

It's all very well saying we are not happy, but management are the ones who touted 'working together'. If they are not entering into meaningful discussions, we should be taking them to task, not expressing exasperation FFS.

The Union said many fine things before the pension talks started - lets not start forgetting such recent history.

Words are meaningless. If we don't get management round the table, we might as well get more KY Jelly ready.

BigDaddyBoxMeal
...the majority of the workforce agreed with the management proposal !!!
Wrong!

35% of staff did not vote. Therefore the majority of staff did not agree with the proposal, only the majority of people who bothered to vote agreed with it.

Many people did not vote, some did not receive ballot papers. There were some who informed reps they had not received a ballot paper, and asked for one. They were told by reps that they could not have one as one had been sent to them


Throw A Dyce

Mr B has got his chance to get wages down.Looks like the Union have already surrendered.
Maybe if there are paycuts then the upper bands should take the hit,and redress the balance to the lower bands.
Since the lower bands took the hit in the past,so the upper bands could be where they are today
I think pay rises are the least of NSLs worries, I'm afraid to say. NSL was effectively lost when we voted yes to the pension, or more accurately when PPP was voted in.

Anyone else notice that NATS no longer has the remit of striving to be the 'World Leader In ATM?

Whilst it is still acknowledged that the operational side continues to provide amongst the best service provision in the World, in some of the most challenging airspace/airports, the company standing has fallen. We are now trailing far behind some of our European counterparts - officially.

NATS has lost sight of itself since PPP. We are witnessing the demise of NATS as we know it.

Last one out, switch off the lights.

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