To go back a little further, when Qantas training was doled out to a very select few, their was still the opportunity to become licensed through self study. It still didn't matter as CASA ran the exams thenselves so when you applied for your license they had all the results already. You got a call to come for a chat were given your license then you went away to the licensing records clerk to get it put on the system, he sent it to payroll so you could get paid and it came back to you through the manpower planner. It was an open system for anyone to see, not to mention it was regularly printed off. Everyone was proud to show off their new licence, now its all cloak and dagger stuff, no one wants to show anyone because then everyone will know what level you are and what you are being paid. Time to go back to the old ways and be open with what you've got.