Glitchfield1 I think the Ilakai was known as Menopause Manor by QF crews due to the nbr of well padded middle aged ladies who went there from stateside for their hols. Spent a couple of interesting evenings there with mates at the Top of the I, and knowing who you are Sir let me introduce a legend in TAA and a very well known fighter pilot in the Royal Australian Navy, no names no pack drill, but welcome Sir if any of us could fly as well as you or had your experience we would be honored.