Well said LH2, I couldnt be bothered rising to the bait this time from Concerened IR..he seems to like making off the cuff comments regarding Spain, and paint a general picture that this practice is common place across quite a large country with many respected training establishments, when it simply isnt. Maybe it did happen at a less reputable school somewhere, but without him backing up his accusations my guess its chinese wispers he has heard in the local, unless he was the one who never tested?