PS WTDWL, I thought it was fairly clear my post was about Cabin Crew costs, which is totally different from cabin crew renumeration. You must admit IFS (or whatever they are now) are overmanned from a management point of view. Hence mentioning the number of managers who now seem to be turning up at briefings who never previously bothered. Add that to the flexibility issues on long haul, productivity on short haul and you probably have several tweaks to make millions of savings without going near pay.