in reply to that last post i have been with menzies since april 07 i am fully ramp trained including fmc trained. and i am also dispatch trained and load control trained. dispatch i learned that in 2 weeks of training and 1 week of shadowing the rest is down to getting the experience. as for ramp it took a bit longer on pushbacks etc but menzies and ezy had a handling company called the orange handling company after 2 years ezy pulled out however menzies were still taking over at most stations menzies have a no drive diamond in place which ezy seem to like. that is prob whats pissing ex servisair staff off and up north its the ex aviance and newer guys that are better at the job and less lazy unlike the servisair guys(not aimed at every servisair worker am sure they kept there good workers) however menzies working conditions are !!!!e but still walking away monthly with more than what aviance and servisair workers are at our stations and as far as am aware we are making money in edi and gla.