Originally Posted by Da Dog
indeed I have done flights from LGW on a 737 with just 3 crew, albeit not the norm
Actually, 3 is the norm on the 737 at LGW. Most flights are operated by three crew, unless the club load goes over 21 (or 40 on some flights).
VS-LHRCSA,
You seem very keen on comparing us with different airlines, to confirm your impression that LHR is unique.
Again, it goes back to BA's unique route network and on board product. In the UK, I can only think of Qantas that offers a true four class configuration on their long haul routes, crewed by UK based crew. By its very nature, crew costs are going to be higher at BA because the service can be labour intensive.
My point regarding crew ratio to service classes is still valid - it is mathematics. For example, we have more crew on a Friday night FRA than say, easyJet because we could have around 100 or so Club Europe passengers. Our service requires extra crew to be able to deliver the product within the time constraints.
Our crew costs are high because of the nature of our service and flying. If easyJet, for example, decided to go long haul, they would also have to pay their crew allowances. If they threw in a business cabin, they would need another crew member.
Ok, so lets really compare like with like. You know what's coming now, don't you?
BA LHR compared to BA LGW
3 and 4 class configurations?
LHR - Check
LGW - Check
Premium passengers?
LHR - Check
LGW - Check (despite popular opinion!)
Business Routes?
LHR - Check
LGW - Check (see above)
So far, it seems to me, a pretty similiar set up. But...
Working with minimum crew,despite having a business cabin?
LHR - Erm...
LGW - Check
Destination Payments?
LHR - Check
LGW - Destination what?
Box Payments?
LHR - Check
LGW - Where's the box?
One Down Payments?
LHR - Check (not sure of amount but £200 has been quoted)
LGW - Check (know that amount - £30)
Mixed flying and the associated fatigue?
LHR - Mixed flying?
LGW - Check
Do you see what I'm getting at here? You appear to be basing the majority of your argument on the fact that BA routes and services are unique. So where does Gatwick come into that argument?
I am well aware that this is not about LGW v LHR but, look at it from a management and shareholder point of view. As far as they are concerned, why should LHR be any different to LGW?
Jsl