Liam
So when you say "Support the AOA and seek a complete and fair deal for all, do not support the petition" you really mean the Non-Capts should drop BBP from their contracts in return for RA65
BPP is a very valuable inclusion in your contract, it has worth, however you cannot reasonably expect to be paid BPP if RA65 is in everybody's contract. I am saying that there has to be some compensation for BPP and it should go to those effected by the changes. Previous posts have the suggestions but at the end of the day it should be collectively bargained. The GC have many different costed options from what they tell us in newsletters. Get something positive for BPP. I do agree with your last paragraph in general Liam
AnthraCX
Google is your friend here, but essentially the judge ruled that an employer does not have the right to unilaterally change your contract without your consent
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This is why your boss is contemplating giving you a choice, you can stay on your current contract with BPP or choose RA65 with no BPP, some other nasties are there as well. Personally I think his plan is flawed because ultimately he is still age discriminating with different pay scales based on age and indeed just having contracts with differing age criteria is probably illegal in many countries we have crew based in.
Firewall
How about disappointed in the myopic stupidity that typifies the Cathay Pacific Pilot.
Harsh but essentially true, how about these classics
How does a new contract 65 no BPP and 55 get BPP have anything to do with the argument?
HMMMM
Tiger321
You don't have to retire at 55 now either - you just have to change jobs.
The CX gig ends at 55 for anybody pre COS08.
You can keep flying after that anywhere you like
With attitudes like this it is no wonder discrimination laws are evolving
So a year 9 S/O (which RA65 would obviously introduce) would take a 10K 25% pay cut to become a year 1 J/FO so you senior members could get your pot of gold. And the AOA supports this? Nice. The 1500 crew who joined after 99 need a union that supports them.
Typifies the jealous envy in the young angry men, you have a union aready supporting you and all members (are you one). They even understand COSAP 94 COS 99 OBS SIGN OR BE FIRED, something you might need to be educated on,
History lessons can be very important tools, something the proposers of the motion have not considered, their short sighted poorly thought out strategy has given the company incentive to seriously contemplate a contract choice lobbing in the mailboxes. The company have done their homework, they know virtually everyone when faced with a choice of 55 or 65 will sign to 65. I am not saying that is a legal approach or it will work and it may well be the start of legal action unprecedented in CX, however we need a strong union intact to mount a challenge and the petition backers are dividing the membership.