UAL 232? Don't take anyone's word for it, read the statements of the actual pilots.
If you're a U.S. based pilot go to the NTSB headquarters in D.C. and read the mircofiche that has the witness interviews on them. That's the data that is edited to present the final report.
No hydraulics for 43+ minutes. Captain and FO still struggling with the flight controls at impact. Hint, it would be the same thing as fighting the controls while parked at the gate and the hydraulic pumps turned off.
The flight crewmember interviews are very interesting. Neither the reports or interviews state who reduced the power after CA Fitch protested the first command to reduce the power - "that's all that's holding your wing up". CA Fitch was correct. Power was reduced and the roll commenced.