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Old 13th Jan 2009, 05:31
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CYRILJGROOVE
 
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to keep it simple... The legal action in essence promotes RA65 with no BPP
. No the legal case deals with jurisdiction and then age discrimination. Your COS will still have BPP provisions in it. The GC have said they want to look after the entire membership and approach the company with a proposal. Having court action from both ends of the membership adds pressure for a settlement. The proposal by Mr Thyrd cuts one chunk of membership adrift for the sole benefit of another intrest group.

The GC turned down a deal in Aug/Sep 07. Two of the unacceptable points the CC vocalized at the time were "RA65 with no BPP" and that new joiners would be on a different contract.
Well the new joiners are on RA65 COS and in Sept 07 I am pretty sure the BPP was not going to those on a base without the seniority to hold that base as a Captain. Support for those choosing to sit on a cosy base and pick up a Captains paycheck is lukewarm at best

If you believe the pilot body really wants RA65 no BPP; encourage the vote or better still bring your own vote forward on the issue.
I will not need to bring on a vote, the company are getting the answers from the crew directly. They know when it comes to the crunch all Capt's would probably sign RA65 as BPP does not effect them (in particular those Capts about to be abandoned), The FO's who are actually being bypassed are missing out on the BPP because it goes to those not willing to come to HKG to get their command, or those that have failed awaiting another command course. Common sense would dictate take the option of RA65 because if you rip out all the emotion about BPP is of little value to them.

Cathay are aware that world wide legislation is slowiy closing in on them, with the cunudrum of On Shoring it is inevitable that RA65 will happen sooner or later. The sooner that dawns on the pilot community and the AOA can move foward the better.

The fix from the companies angle is actually very simple, Drop a new COS in your box, strike out all references to RA55, substitute it with RA 65. They know the numbers hanging out for BPP and RA55 is very low, the lack of BPP will mean a very low cost option for the company. A quick little letter to those on a base offering them a command in HKG is all that is need to according to 10.4 in the 1999 BPP COS provisions to take BPP from them. Those in HKG will have signed RA65 and BINGO, we have been outfoxed again and come up with zip for something that some think is the Holy Grail. (BPP). Withdraw the motion and concentrate your efforts on achieving a deal with appropriate compensation , not ripping the AOA to bits

If you do not believe that contracts could end up in your box, As some one else said, "you just have not been here long enough"

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