I was asking a direct question with a direct answer. It was the misinformed attack on the federation pilots that prompted me to comment on this thread. I am sure the slagging of them will continue. Odd, don't you think, that it is seldom the other way. I would expect that the ALPA leaders don't condone what some posters put on pprune.
This thread has drifted so I am bowing out. Well done though to the Air Nelson pilots, both Federation and ALPA for what they have achieved.