That was exactly the response i expected Tim, when challenged to prove your claims of Pleming being the crux of T.V.O.C.'s problems you do your usual and start the waffle, i think you will find that i have been discussing 558 and the project and it is you that have been having ago may i refer you to what Andrew said about "personal zoning"? I dont think that Pleming has done a good job, nor do i think he has done a bad job as i simply do not have sufficient solid and reliable information to make a decision, that however has'nt stopped you from constantly attacking the guy, and i guess from your post you wont be taking me up on my offer then? That in its self speaks volumes so i suggest you take your own advice.
All i have ever asked is why he is useless etc and at no point have i attacked you or made it personal in any shape or form.