I'm not Max but his passion fingers will be here soon enough. Dick, the NAS is an excellent tool to move heaps of aircraft. The problem in Australia is that we have the same Airspace volume as the US but 5% of the staff. Most of the model requires more staff. This does not make the model wrong but highlights that Australia is different for financial and population reasons. You are a fan of risk V reward V dollars so this should be obvious to you don't you agree?