Muff, well said, let the pongos fly it, and deal with the problems etc.
As for robspotty why all this negative attitude -- you would think by all the comments made around the place that people want Apache to fail... so the ol' "told you so" type syndrome can set in. Get on with it. It is such an awesome platform and dont think that a four tonners will do, why dont you do something towards the push, what have YOU done.. ****** all probably.. so get back in your box. If you don't like it sign off.