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Old 30th Dec 2008, 21:19
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Wee Weasley Welshman
 
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Ok allocate_on_arrival, here's why oh why.


WWW, what was that last prediction of 'fire and brimstone' in response to, or was it just our weekly dose of your version of morbid reality?
No it was a few minutes before midnight and my normal hesitancy was slackened by drink and merry making.


I'll tell you this for free, you are not in a position to cast predications. Don't get me wrong, the rest of us aren't either, that's why we all sit silently (most of the time) awatching this thread, awaiting movement in the industry or economy.
I'll tell you this for free, I am in a position to cast predictions because I did and they all came true. Bottom line. If you want to be a pundit then you live and die by your predictions. At the moment I make Robert Preston look like my understudy. That's a cocky statement but it is true. I have bragging rights.

Quote:
The quake has not yet hit.
Blatant scare-mongery.

No. Totally true. We have has the tremours like Woolies. The main shocks are coming in 2009. It might be scary but its no mongery.

Let me ask you this now, are you involved with the CTC wings scheme in any particular way or is it just a little fun to scare off potential new pilots. I am just bemused by your avid interest in it. Is it easy bait to pick on pilots new who are not aware of the this industry and its sinusoidal nature?
No the only involvement I have is with flying with many of the Wings cadets. As such I know what has happened and what is happening. Sinusoidal? Is that mentioned on AIRLINE PILOT TRAINING ?

Put yourself in the situation of the people who are already nuts deep into their training or are head down in preparation for selection. How can you possibly guarantee there will be no place for them in the industry when they complete training? I believe the answer to that would be no...
Put yourself in the situation of the people who are already nuts deep into the application process or 'selection' and who are about to commit financial suicide. How can you possibly guarantee there will be a place for them in the industry when they complete training? I believe the answer to that would be no...


Let's get down to the nitty gritty:-
FACT: The holding pool is about 50 strong
However (commar one space)
My big hairy arse it is.

FACT: 8 people were placed with TCX in September (merely weeks after XL and Zoom went t1ts skyward)
FACT: X people start type rating with EJ (something you should know all about apparently) on 737's in a couple of weeks.
FACT: There are upcoming EJ 737 TR's booked in 2009
FACT: Monarch have said they expect to re-recruit in 2009 the cadets they laid-off
FACT: Although EJ guys were laid off, their bonds were paid for them for 6 months whilst they either found alternative employment (which CTC helped with) or held out for return positions in the summer.
FACT: Flexi-crew is a short term solution to what we all hope to be a short term problem. However if this 'recession' proves to be more than transitory then HSBC will have to arrange different repayment options, remember thought you still have the best training in the industry and the most competent and experienced placement team behind you. Not to mention the chance of serious employment under the flexi scheme. Its just like pay-2-fly without the paying and the hatred of the entire aviation industry.
There are hundreds HUNDREDS of CTC cadets either graduated in the pool, returned to the pool, in New Zealand or about to go to New Zealand. Applications, Interviews and Selection days continue.

Or you could always go elsewhere, complete your training and buy a photocopier and a franking machine with your change for all the wasted CV's you'll have to send out. Only to find yourself 5 years down the line flying a washing machine, trust me, been there, seen it all.

CTC is not perfect, but you could do a hell of a lot worse.
Yeah, I said that last week on this thread.

Jerry's final thought:-
Up-to this point WWW, of reading your posts I have drawn nothing useful or constructive, merely speculative and vacuous semi-facts. Maybe its just me and my many years of experience in the industry or perhaps the delusions of moderation have gone to your head?

Weasleys final thought:-

Do you have 10,000hrs, are you a Captain, have you moderated this forum for a decade, have you instructed both Modular and Integrated students and are you totally unconnected from the flying training industry and here MERELY for the benefit of Wannabes?

Is it too much to ask for a new years resolution in 'The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread' to be 'I must tell the truth' and 'I must not speculate'
Your cadets will be going bankrupt by the dozen. That's the bottom line.

Answer: Probably.

Are we clear?

WWW
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