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Old 28th Dec 2008, 16:32
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PeterPaul
 
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What a rip off, a tenner return to Dublin, I'd go with another airline if I was you
That the price is low is not questioned. The hiding of cost is. Is this not clear enough, There have been so many discussions on it.

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people have got to realise is that most if not all of add ons are not compulsary.The customer has direct control over the price they pay.You dont have to eat,
Is using the toilet of the aircraft, compulsory? Some people never use it. And some carriers do not charge. If not compulsory then, are you free to choose or not to pay a high fee, for the specific service? Are there ways to avoid it? The same goes for the life-jacket. Should you pay dearly if, and only if, you use it?

Above all, if it is a question of choice, (implying a choice for such a luxury), is it acceptable (and permissible, mind you) to impose a high fee at sellers descretion?

Do you know what is a "lion's share"? It is not that the lion takes the large part. It is that the lion pretends to be giving a choice! "Either YOU give me the large part, or I eat you, the choice is yours". Milleniums ago, after the Aesop fables. there have been so many discussions on it.

It is exactly this theme again. A pretense of choice is no choice indeed.

To make it hilarious (not outrageous), is the following example: I book a return trip for my 50 (fifty) friends at 1 EUR each, that makes 100 EUR for all, by electron card there is nothing else to be paid (web check-in).

Then one (just one of the company of 50) wants to have a single baggage weighing 19 kg. Let's do the calculation now. The 1 bag=10x2=20 EUR, it's overweight 4kg=4x15x2=120 EUR, check-in for all=50x5x2=500 EUR, If I am "clever" enough, I can register the bag separetely with one person reservation, I save 500 EUR, grand "clever" total 140 EUR for one (just one) bag, weighing 19 kgs. Plus the 50 friends 100 EUR, weighing 4 tons. Do you really think this is casual? not carefully calculated to keep customers off guard? That is to deceive them, to defraud them?

The question why do they not include the fee into the ticket price, is easily answered, Because this way there would not be a deceit, deceit is the intention!

1. Do not travel with Ryanair.
-One can choose another airline, one that does not deceive its customers (let fools pay for they foolishness).
Yes, only if there is perfect competition. But
-Every low-cost airline feels that the deceit is succeeding, then they are unfairly undercut, so they mimic it. There is no competition then.
-There are many routes where there is just no competition at all (and no exemption of ad-ons). Some carriers try ardently to annihilate competition. The hidding of cost is actually one such effort.
-There are legacy airlines that do not charge for add-on. Yes, they need not to hide the actual cost (no need for deceit, no fraud).
The fault is to whom started it all (fraud by hidding the actual cost by exorbitant high add-ons). The cure is to abolish the deceit.

The fact that one pays the high add-on, does not mean that there is no-fraud, no hidding of the cost of the actual fare.

The fact that you can always read the small print and calculate the total cost, makes the whole process purposefully complicated, to the end of defrauding.
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