Well I don't know what you mean really, have you flown for Q.R or are you just listening to the gossip? I kind of resent the "life" quote....it's a great life with routes that are hard to beat, good crews...it's hard work but nobody should join any airline thinking that it will be anything else. I would rather be living this life than one of abject poverty just to wear the red...I've never understood the prestige that seems to be attached to Virgin, but each to their own I suppose because there are many like you who can't understand what I do.