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Old 4th April 2002 | 15:44
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Wee Weasley Welshman
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Hey Weasley:

The point I was driving at was we are no longer flying in the world of Radio Ranges, ADF, Celestial navigation and HF radios as our only means of communication.

I regularly fly outside of the promulagated range of VOR's and ADF's across the Bay of Biscay.

I may be wrong but to have seven questions on such a doubious means of determining time and distance is really stupid.

Not really. If you can't work out a simple bearing/distance/time problem then best you don't fly a jet airliiner..

I sort of agree on the morse code thing for the identifying of radio aids, however voice idents were brought into the system as far back as the early sixties and make far more sense than morse code.

No voice idents in Europe. And not at all common in the rest of the world. What about NDB and ILS DME idents? What about visual beacon idents of airfields?

By the way when I received my instrument rating training in the 1950's we had to read morse randomly selected by the examiner before taxiing.

Having said all that I flew many, many thousands of hours IFR and never, never,never had to figure out time and distance by using an ADF to figure time and distance. I have never really flown an ADF that was accurate enough to exactly determine the real bearing of a station with any reliability.

Well the procedures are drawn with +- 5 degrees allowance for the NDB - that should be enough.

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