Why are talking about a 15 year deal? If Nats can't afford it now fair enough, but in 3/5/10 years time what then? Why can't we have a review in 5 years to see what exactly is needed to be done. If we are deeper in the doodoo then we can try and fix it earlier, if it is all roses and sunshine then restore it to it's present level, with a small loss for most of us but at least a small loss, instead of a potentially larger one. Quite honestly I'll vote no for the above and some of my previous reasons. This is totally a personal vote and is totally selfish, because lets face it, I've been very selfish and greedy in taking all those massive pay rises and obviously it's all my fault.