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Old 17th Nov 2008, 23:29
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Scurvy.D.Dog
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We don't need yet another bureaucratic report to tell us that procedural separation is far inferior in terms of safety and efficiency compared to radar separation.
... another bureaucratic report ?? ... how about you produce just one (already produced) that supports your assertion!!
Imagine if everyone actually believed it was safer and more efficient. Can you imagine Sydney or Chicago reverting to procedural separation?
.. you no rissin I said
If ATS experts (in the literal sense) can prove that it can be done safer, cheaper, and most relevantly, more expeditiously (because that costs the Kero-burners big time), with all the appraopriate factors taken into account such as traffic levels … then go your hardest!
Which accounts for primaries like SY et al who do not
support giving a Sydney tower controller responsibility for providing enroute or approach radar services
.. apples with apples mj
Why on earth can't we have what we (the industry and airspace users) are paying for.
... how much do you reckon the LSP charges would be in comparison from the service now, against a separate Radar TCU (24/7) and Tower??? .... you are getting what you pay for now mate
There is a perfectly good radar on the ground at Launy, soon to be supplemented by a Multilateration system that is not going to be used when it is needed most.
Yes it is/will
That is, late at night when the kero burner pilots (or any other pilot) are tired, its dark and we are descending into mountainous terrain.
.. well then, if that is a problem (where's the data/reports), as i said
If CTAF (with AWIS on the VOR) between 10pm local and 6am local is an issue (which it is not), we just need doggos and another bod or two .... that verses a whole Approach cell of bod's 24/7 .. which will do what better than the present arrangement
Which presumably (if it is a problem only you seem to know about) will mean the same applies at all regional D's and CTAF's where
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.. que the dim lights, wind whilstling, and long transfixed faces by the erry fireside

.... late at night when the kero burner pilots (or any other pilot) are tired, its dark and we are descending into mountainous terrain.
.... will need a radar TCU and tower service with (as The Oreo admits he is pushing for) Primary and Secondary (TAR) sureveillance infrustructure!!!
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Or are you suggesting different (like type) locations should operate differently?
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So mj and Oreo .. how many additional TAR's should govmint be purchasing, and at what additional cost (to industry)???
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