Thank you Stupendous Man. Me Me Me,the figures I used in the calculator were RPI +1.5% and guess what...£10k per year worse off. So kindly explain how that is crap please. And actually, I wasn't having a go at non-ops staff, in fact I was very careful not to mention anything about CTC...what I was objecting too was the frivolous waste of money by NATS management. As for your pious, holier than thou attitude....YAWN.