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Old 16th November 2008 | 23:11
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Robini
 
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From: In OY-VKH
''If this particular example is really so important to you then provide the runway used, weather and aircraft registration and no doubt some kind soul will look it up for you.''

I really hope so

Well here are my ''approvements''...
I can take 2 examples:



Here runway 03 was in use. The runway has a slope is +0,3% and is on a
elevation of 478ft (146m). The runway has 1 obstacle. Wich is 3580 m from
brake release point and has an height of 14 m.

When runway 03 is in use NO HEAVY use intersection takeoffs (just small ones).
And so the case with this flight to. He taxied the whole way to runway 03, lined up
set TKF power. I have lived with this airport in my whole life so i know almost
EXACTLY how many meters that went when passed XX taxiways.
When he passed the taxiway that is exactly 2000 m from runway 03 he didn't even
lift the nose from the ground. Some seconds later after 2200 m passed he started
to lift the nose and very soon he was up in the air...After almost EXACTLY 2500m
used runway.
As many of you know im a real perf nerd So of course i went to the check in
BEFORE the check in desks closed. I calculated 404 adults and 24 infants.
So it was 100% cabin factor (as almost every time)...I did this BEFORE the takeoff
, so you know.
I actually been writing down the most of the weathers when the A333 is about to depart. So i remember it quite well.
Following:
Temperature: 10C
QNH: 1023
Visibility: VERY good
Wind: 010/12 knt ( so almost headwind)

The registration on this flight was OY-VKG with MTOW of 230T.

Here you have example number 2.



Here the takeoffs are from runway 21 ( TORA,TODA,ASDA of 3299m).
The runway has a slope of -0,3% but an elevation of 506ft (154m).
At this runway there are no obstacles so you can just gently float out after
departing
To see exact were the airplanes is leaving the ground is X-Tremly hard but i can say
for sure it's lifting the nose at a taxiway ( at this time also is 2000m but from rwy21)
and lifting off the nose at around the same time. So you can safely assume that is use
to be around that amount of runway too.
The registration of this flight was this time OY-VKH with an MTOW of 230T.
As usually i saved the weather.
Following:
Temperature: 4C
QNH: 1027
Visbility: Good
Wind: 250/15 knt

So it's almost headwind for runway 21.

So PLEASE someone, i have searched many years and i DON'T want to continue.
But i can't change subject before i really understand this with performance.
So could someone help me with this, i would appreciate it moore than anything else..

Thanks!!

//Robini
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