JJ
I should have said a CPL(H) with an IR.
ANO Schedule 8
Part A
Section 1 UK Licences
Sub Section 2 CPL(H&G) includes in paragraph 2 beginning with "He shall not" and says
(d) unless his licence includes an instrument rating (helicopter) fly as pilot in
command of such a helicopter in circumstances which require compliance with
the Instrument Flight Rules:
(i) in Class A, B or C airspace at any time; or
(ii) in Class D, E, F or G airspace unless remaining clear of cloud and with the
surface in sight;
There is a similar para further down the page for co-pilots also.
Which allows an old CPL to do the similar to what I said earlier (which is something I didn't know but should have), but is said a different way to the bit I thought i did know.
Section 2 is Jar FCL Licences.
CPL(H)
Para 2 Again
(2) (a) Subject to sub-paragraph (b), the licence is subject to the conditions and
restrictions specified in paragraph 2.175 of Section 1 of JAR-FCL 2.
(b) The holder may fly in circumstances which require compliance with the
Instrument Flight Rules in the United Kingdom in Class D, E, F or G airspace
when remaining clear of cloud and with the surface in sight.
.
The Rules of The Air Allow a choice of VFR or IFR (Rule 20), so if I choose to go IFR and comply with the rules in particular rule 33 which applies inside and outside controlled airspace when IFR and says
33.—(1) Subject to paragraphs (2) and (3), an aircraft shall not fly at a height of less than 1,000
feet above the highest obstacle within a distance of 5 nautical miles of the aircraft unless—
(a) it is necessary for the aircraft to do so in order to take off or land;
(b) the aircraft flies on a route notified for the purposes of this rule;
(c) the aircraft has been otherwise authorised by the competent authority in relation to the
area over which the aircraft is flying; or
(d) the aircraft flies at an altitude not exceeding 3,000 feet above mean sea level and remains
clear of cloud and with the surface in sight and in a flight visibility of at least 800 metres.
(2) The aircraft shall comply with rule 5.
(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to a helicopter that is air-taxiing or conducting manoeuvres in
accordance with rule 6(i).
JAR FCL Para 2.175 says
JAR–FCL 2.175 Circumstances in which
an IR(H) is required
(a) The holder of a pilot licence shall not
act in any capacity as a pilot of a helicopter
under Instrument Flight Rules (IFR), except as a
pilot undergoing skill testing or dual training,
unless the holder has an instrument rating (IR)
appropriate to the category of aircraft issued in
accordance with JAR–FCL.
(b) In JAA Member States where national
legislation requires flight in accordance with IFR
under specified circumstances (eg. at night), the
holder of a pilot licence may fly under IFR,
provided he holds a qualification appropriate to
the circumstances, airspace and flight conditions
in which the flight is conducted. National
qualifications permitting pilots to fly in
accordance with IFR other than in VMC without
being the holder of a valid IR(H) shall be
restricted to use of the airspace of the State of
licence issue only.
[My emboldening]
Doesn't mean I want to do it, but If I need to I can
Someone else may have a different interpretation but thats the way I read it.
PS Thank you (
and clearly not).