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Old 14th Nov 2008, 20:17
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james michael
 
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Leaddy

That's great rhetoric - then one grabs the magnifying glass and

have a look at the published figures for the number of Qantas, Jetstar, and Virgin aircraft that cannot be economically upgraded to even ADS-B OUT
I challenge anybody to produce evidence that the Virgin board signed off on fitting ADS-B OUT to all their own aircraft
and this is so logical it is absolutely unarguable - why didn't we think of it

do you really think they (senior executive management --- not the low level office types who go to consultation meetings) were going to accept a "mandate" that rendered a substantial proportion of their fleet un-usable in Australian airspace.
So, Leaddy, the mugs read this and say "oh Leaddy guru, you make it all so clear".

But then someone suggests - hey, wasn't there two programs - the UAP (Upper Airspace Project) and the JCP (Lower airspace)?

So Leaddy you may be absolutely correct. Let's now await whether a mandate occurs for above 29,000'. Last time I looked, apart from climb and descent, that's where Qantas and Virgin fly. Should that occur, your post becomes a nonsense.

QF delivered a letterheaded paper at Dec 2007 ABIT which stated inter alia:

QANTAS believes that ADS-B (1090 ES) will be central to any future Australian ATM surveillance strategy and will be key to delivering future airborne situational awareness and separation applications (ASAS). It is consistent with the ASTRA vision which is supported by all major stakeholders.

Time will tell Leaddy - you may be right, Qantas may be wrong
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