Never let the facts get in the way of the truth. The new CP is very keen to do a deal in 2 weeks. It would be EBA7 with back pay, more money for the 380, fixed allowances and a couple of other small issues fixed. It would be a compliant agreement as allowed for under law and could be put to the troops prior to Xmas and allow the engineers to get back pay with their retrenchment. EBA 8 was and allways will be the greatest crock of s..t we will ever see.