still dark and hungry,
at the briefing i went to-the first at our unit- we asked how far management had moved in negotiations. they insisted that management had moved a considerable distance but wouldn't tell us how much.
They continually said they would tell us if we wanted but then didn't and promptly changed the subject.
We knoe smart pensions is a no brainer, everyone wins, the cap was a jointly proposed idea according to the guys at our briefing. so the only thing that has been changed (reading between the lines) is the amount of employer and employee contribution to the defined contribution scheme for new employees.
here's a quote from the guy in the stripey tie who looked a bit like martin "mad dog" allen,
" we can tell you, but i don't like negotiating in a goldfish bowl" cue change of topic.
brilliant.