Being stuck in the office at work and unable to access the links on the prune site, i saw a program on Discovery Wings a couple of years ago, i think it was Battle stations,on the F15 in Isreali air force service, where an incident involving the loss of most of the port wing was featured, the pilot was being interviewed alomgside the damaged a/c. He said the only way he kept it airborne was to go flat out.unbelievable.