Anotherthing
Bit confused by your response in saying I'll get flak, when you then go onto echo some of the comments I say.
However I couldnt agree more that there is wastage in the ops enviroment also, I did mention this somewhere in my post also, there are many atco's who play the system, transfers for strange reasons where they fail to validate and obvious from the start this will be the case. just resulting in not only the transfer costs but also the training costs associated with this. I agree that some of those that start to struggle with the day job should be better used rather than the rest proping up the system, there are plenty of needed posts an jobs in CTC and swanwick that these ATCO's could be moved into rather than employing externally even more people to do that work. With this present deal from the company this problem could become worse, with ATCO's that may have considered early retirement as a solution to their slowing down, now not financially being able to afford it with there reduced pension when they get there.
It just seems to me that they are knocking on our door to make this great saving, yet all the time throwing money away at what seems to not actually generating the company. I must reiterate I know there are a lot of non operational people at CTC/Swanwick/Heathrow house that are doing great jobs, even some posts that are new and post PPP. That without them many of the achievements NATS as made wouldnt be so. But if at a operational level we decided to have 10 more controllers than we needed, an assistant for the assistant, then you couldnt say they werent useful people, all highly trained etc...but it would be overkill and a total waste of resources and money, I just think maybe some of the posts in place at CTC that have large departments, and endless support staff, assistants to assistants, could maybe actually find there is enough work for a few less of them if they streamlined a bit. And that some departments, could probably be merged, that some areas could probably use some of the ATCO's we already pay that maybe finding controlling a bit tougher.
It would just be interesting to see what the staff numbers are now for CTC since PPP and what the salary costs of those of all those in office based jobs are since PPP as compared to that prior CTC, I accept it would be higher because as i say we did need some of it, but exaclty how much higher, how much does a HR business partner get? ATCO/ATSA scales are published and transparent, be interesting to see what the job salaries and the various posts that exist in CTC etc are perhaps as they so internet crazy they could have on there site information of all the posts and staff and what they all actually do, you mention that CTC people helped with the move of WD to save the company money etc, but just where might that saving go if you've just spent it all again on employing a load more people in another building, we now have heathrow house aswell as heathrow tower, compared to everyone being in one building before. what about all the support staff at MANC when it moves to Prestwick are they going to still be duplicated?
What im trying to get across is why should I be the one doing all the work to plug the damm, when others are splashing about in the water making it leak.