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Old 31st October 2008 | 11:59
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mad_jock
 
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Your never going to get through to a majority of the dreamers.

It's up to them if they don't want to listen to WWW.

Its not our cash in fact its not thier's either most of the time. Let them spend it.

There will always be the few examples of people getting lucky, although to be honest I don't think luck has much to do with it. Its all hard work and determination.

There has always been wash out rates at all stages of the process to getting to fly the line. When times are good a higher proportion of those that first sit in a light aircraft for the porpose of earning a living, when times are bad a lower amount will get there.

I did ask at the CAA why they didn't produce statistics on.

1. Number of intial class 1 medicals issued.
2. Number of initial sittings of ATPL's
3. Number of intial CPL's issued
4. Number of Intial IR's
5. Number of first type ratings issued.

It is classed as highly commercially sensitive information. By not only the training industry but also the CAA and Airlines.

Why because the whole system works by having a glut of supply of new pilots. Airlines need to be able to grab folk off the street. The training system needs a constant through put or it can't keep up with the fluctuations in demand from the airlines. And the CAA needs people in the system or it starts costing them serious amounts of money keeping the system in place and also gives them issues with again the lag time getting things ramped up when demand requires it.

Wannabies are pawns in a very large and expensive industry which is very heavy in capital investment from the very outset of training the small proportion of the staff which is mission critical to its survival. Millions are pumped into the training industry which never earn a penny for the people spending the money.

Its not in anyones interests apart from the pilots themselves for the real state of play in respects to jobs to be fully known. In fact it would kill any chance of airlines being able to react to customer demands.

Its going to be pretty horrible for the next few years. WWW in my opinion is right just now but I suspect it could get a whole lot worse. God forbid Flybe, easyjet or any of the large fleet operators go tits up. It could go quite rapidly from a pain in the bum for the majority to a complete collapse in the pilot market which will take 5 years plus to sort out.

So if you think about it the dreamers are actually helping out the people who take the advice from WWW they are supporting the system so when it does become an acceptable risk to train all the services are still available. The skill is going to be when to commit to training.

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