I agree with you 100% SATAN , as do many of my colleagues. There are some however who feel that wanting to pick a fight with management is not reason enough to vote no. I say b******* to that...it may not be the ONLY reason to vote no, but I think it is a perfectly valid one because, as you correctly point out, if we vote this in then we will continue to take it up the a*** from the management, with no vaseline I might add

, over every subsequent negotiation, and that includes the impending payrise talks....where, surprise surprise, a pay freeze has already been mooted.
Every one is entitled to their own opinion, that just happens to be mine.