Brian and S'Land - I didn't think of that! See, another part of history apparently being swiped from history, and yet a vital, nay pivotal, moment in a true to life film.
It makes me mad. What with the PC'ers and Elf 'n Safety what is the world coming to?
Brian in answer to your time question. The time is PCT in San Fransisco where the owners of PPRuNe reside. Usually six hours but we retarded ours, if you see what I mean!