im thinking its still a no vote, but things that will start to make me think will be:
1) barron and his cronies NOT getting any bonus this year and for some time after that.
2) the company starts making a certified and visual effort to the workforce how they are tightening belts and trying to save money, rather than the staff picking up the slack via this pension deal, and i dont mean by sacking 'necessary' people needed to keep the ATC cog turning
3) the compnay regains its sight back to air traffic and the business of moving planes (non profit, naturally) and culls all these make believe jobs that serve no bloody purpose, e.g safety and training manager, operational information leader.. saw that one on the wall outside an office in the corridor today!!!!
Although i've not yet been to a briefing, that's close to my stand-point already.
I'm realistic enough to appreciate that it's not simply going to be just a case of digging our heels in and refusing to budge on anything. But, that said, i expect this to be a negotiation with a little give and take on both sides. So far, i see little 'give' on the part of the company, but a whole lot of 'take'. Hence i'll be saying 'thanks but no thanks' unless they can demonstrate some serious changes on their part to assist with addressing the shortfall!
P.S. Don't interpret this as 'non-ops' bashing. I'm fully aware that there are a whole raft of non-ops people who are essential to the successful function of this company, BUT, I'm also under the suspicion that there are a fair few who are currently involved in projects that, if they were culled tomorrow, not many would miss. If you're happy that you provide an essential and important function to the company, then there would be no need to be either looking over your shoulder...or attacking me for my opinion!