I've told you what has recently been done for you.
Now you tell me what you have achieved for yourselves
BusyB,
The reason I brought up the matter of AOA contribution is because of the following post, wayyy back from the first page of this thread:
There are some LEPs I have spoken to who claim the AOA are taking credit for what the local pilot committee essentially negotiated and it wasn't until the deal was nearly done that the AOA stepped in completed the final touches.
Whether or not this is entirely true, it seems to be the feeling amongst the locals and it will take a lot more than this to get the locals to rejoin/join the AOA.
Liam,
Not semantics... far from it... Husbands and wives/ unmarried couples don't get fired/ jailed for each collecting a salary; but they do for both collecting housing.
And thus, this should not be counted as part of one's income because...?
A-scalers are out favour due to their high salary, but pilots with 3 kids collecting Education and Rental are not prejudiced against. Not expressing any judgement on these examples; just stating facts.
Not facts, but merely your opinion. And not one we all share.
I hold no prejudice against anyone who is on a better package.
It appears though that many on the better packages holds prejudice to those on inferior packages.
Mrfox put out some fairly emotive stuff and certainly played the race card.
Racism and prejudice are two different things. Perhaps the following edit would clear up my intentions with the original analogy.
...Reaching the COCKPIT, I was stopped by AN EXPAT. "Are you A LOCAL?" he demanded. Without a word, I SHOWED him my FLYING ABILITIES/YEARS OF SERVICE. He looked at it and then spat out: "Yes, but you are still A LOCAL!"...
Who is being discriminated against. If it is you... why did you join?
Why did people join on the B-scale post 93, or on the freighter scale?
If a LEP pilot on by-pass gets a payment to compensate him for the Housing Allowance he is not receiving because of delayed Command; would you support the notion that by-passed based ex-pat pilots should also get a payment to compensate them for the Housing and Education allowance they are not getting because of their delayed Commands (assuming they are prepared to come to HK)?
To be honest, the way this housing/bypass issue is being put forth is muddling the interests of the different groups even futher... I'd rather wish they had attacked the manner in a different way.
But to answer your question - yes, I'll support motions that strive towards bringing the Cathay pilot groups on to a common remuneration package, bringing with it greater solidarity and collective bargaining power.
Finally, a question for you. You are a qualified pilot; your skills are globally in demand. What package would it take for you to go to Emirates?
For me it’s simple.
EK package + merits of living in Dubai > CX package + merits of living in HK + sunk cost of relocating family from HK + sunk cost of seniority in CX.
Now tell me... do the priorities of a "Local" really seem that different from that of an "Expat"?