There is a definite disconnect between pilot and engineer in todays world.Didnt used to be.Engineers were once flt engineers but then they took the third seat out.Pilots used to have work the engineers panel before sitting in the right.Pilots used to get shown the ropes in the hangar during C check..now they learn by rote and do the 6 month answer A,B or C monkey check.Some today have never seen an EEC or PACK..if you see it you'll catch on..a picture tells a thousand words etc.CP's in the old days were tough SOB's who'd wouldnt give a damn for this modern BS(Captain isnt a pilot but a flight manager
)..they would have been on that Lanzarote incident like flies on dogsh*t and making sure data was disseminated to their guys..I know the powers that be will throw more SOP's at this as part of their answer..irony is you need less and a little more airmanship.Even if Madrid turns out to be the relay itself and not the cb,the lesson was check the TOWS every time..the full check at the gate during pre-flight.And if the SOP says the other guy checks this or that,doesnt matter,check it again..know the condition of your plane before you go flying.
Justme69,
Thank you for post 2133