I do detect Edwin, an ever so slight tendency to cynicism there, but nevertheless will allow the benefit of the doubt and presume it banter. Perhaps I was overawed by the lack of whinging and took my eye off the ball. The point I was making, was that the majority of the posts have already accepted the point, which was/is that moderation is only necessary when applied spontaneously by the writer. I guess some people just accept that and move on.Personally, I suffered the same disillusionment felt by others at the abysmal standard set in other threads. This one is a pleasure to read! Now it's a very warm evening, and if you'll excuse me I'll continue to the bottom of an excellent pinot noir.The venison's not bad either!