Thought I might put you straight on the OATS rumours ! We do offer VTR on our Distance Learning courses to those who have either registered for NVQ at level 4 or for those who are over 30 with VTR2. VTR ceases on the 31st August 2000, NVQ continues to three years after registration date: please remember that NVQ and VTR are two different things ! VTR is available on both modular and integrated courses if the student has registered. For those wishing to get VTR (over 30's) on their flying courses they have to prove to the Inland Revenue that they have completed a full-time course - what this means to the Inland Revenue is 16 hours per week - this is the difficulty; for those registered, no problem at all ! On the matter of Distance Learning, we were the first school to gain approval for our course and no, it was not written by Four Forces to which we take great exception !!