So, after Germany 'Lost' the war, they make rubbish cars, have trains that never show up, and random waste collection....... hmmmm who really won I wonder?
There are a few Germans around who might claim to have lost the war, but won the peace -- having ended up with a better standard of living than Britain.
Perhaps, but those who did were fortunate in having the British or Americans as the occupying power. Not all of Germany was so fortunate, and I think for the most part they realise it.