There is no doubt you Spotters can get totally out of control if left unmonitored. Is this thread really about a bloody immersion heater going out on an A380 or a bit of minor ramp rash? And it becomes a Boeing v Airbus 'which is better' argument? Some growing up is needed here. This sort of rubbish discussion is better off at that stupid other website full of teenies getting off on talking about aeroplanes! Grow up chaps!