This thread seems to be deteriorating into glider vs IR traffic
Could I just say that there is no guarantee that any of the powered fraternity, of which I am one, are talking to the same radio service.
Recently I spoke to a CAA safety bod who had told me that when flying between Cornwall and Elstree he was always talking to a radar service.
I do the same from time to time and at weekends I have a choice between London Information or the local airfields, such as Old Sarum or Compton Abbas. So if I am talking to them, and the other guy is talking to London Information, how do we know where anyone is. Similarly, between Elstree and Wycombe who is on what frequency?
This is exactly the same as those of you whinging about glider pilots on their cloud flying frequency whilst you are on an ATC radar service (if you can get one)