xaf2fe Apologies - I added the rotation point to impact - not airborne, so ~maybe 3000' airborne - although in fact it took 4.5s after liftoff until it passed the end of the runway which pushes it back to 4000' again
Whatver, read the post I was responding to - a definitive statement that
??)...only if confirmed not lifted off the ground that theory of an incorrect or absent drill of the before take off checklist by the pilots could be brought up, otherwise flaps were selected correctly.
that
if the aircraft got airborne, the
flaps were selected correctly.
Again, reading the report - the MD-82 referred to "should have got airrborne" at 163KIS (V2+10), but actually got airborne at 169KIAS... so speed at liftoff / ground run used was not markedly different. What was different was the attitude required, and drag / wing-rock / stick shake / climb rate achievable.
I am not going to draw conclusions about Madrid. All I was doing was correcting a definitive, and provably incorrect statment I had read...
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