You have raised some good points trolly dolly, however surely there is an aviation governing body which would stipulate guidelines for things such as minimum rest etc?? I have flown previously and know that there is such a thing overseas. I would imagine that any airline within Australia would have to adhere to the same requirements for passenger and crew safety. Over tired crew, wouldn't be of much use in any kind of an emergency. Aside from the FAAA, does anyone know of where else you can find information on this kind of thing. Also will the contracts being offered by V be negotiable??