Originally Posted by
lomapaseo
Is there any way that we can convert this rumor of a video showing:
no engine fire,
a long takeoff roll
a drop back to the runway with a roll
as a fact
If so we can probably trim out quite a few speculations to date.
Unfortunately the thrust reverser questions will take some time to be disposed
Here is a Babel Fish translation of a Spanish article that refers to the video.
El MD-82 despegó escaso de potencia y no se incendió en el aire, según las grabaciones - Nacional_Sucesos - Nacional - ABC.es
The images recorded by the cameras of security of the tracks of Barajas show that the MD-82 of Spanair that crashed Wednesday
did not have sufficient power when initiated the takeoff, according to sources of the investigation consulted by ABC that already have visionado the sequence. It does not last more than two or three seconds. The image corroborates the testimony of the pilot of an airship that landed then in parallel: “That airplane does not take off, is eating the track”. As much he, as the rest of the crew of the airplane that came already from Guayaquil has been mentioned to declare by the Civil Guard. I collate of that recording, the marks left by the apparatus in the track - del wing, rest of the undercarriage, scattered to both sides, and the first successfully obtained testimonies, still without determining the causes, aim at that the accident took place of the following form.
The MD-82, with 162 passengers on board and ten crew, initiates the maneuver of takeoff to the 14,20 hours. It is the second attempt; almost one hour before a failure in the outer temperature sensor had had to return to the door of boarding when detecting the commander, that communicated to the passage. All the sources agree in which that anomaly does not have relation and so it happened later, but also it is being investigated. A technical inspector of Spanair certificó that McDonnell Douglas could fly. The manual anticipates that the switch takes off who gives energy him to the blower pipe, located under the cabin of the copilot, according to the company.
The airplane initiates the takeoff by track 36 left; the commander notices the lack of power, surely just after reaching the V1 call - when no longer the maneuver can be aborted; VR or turnover rate is arrived at.
The aircraft, that had not risen more than 50 meters, inclines (probably after failing the right motor, although the doubts persist); one hurries to the ground, the right wing is striking the track and the pilot loses the control. The airplane to more than 280 km per hour is undone and crawling about 500 meters - there are marks of that uncontrolled maneuver. He does not arrive at the end of the track, leaves by the right, he crosses the peripheral fence and one hurries by a semislope staggered among five and seven meters until the channel of the stream of the Fertile valley. There the loaded deposits of kerosene explode and the apparatus catches fire. The dead and bodies alive are scattered in the lowest part of valley throughout about 400 meters. The crew did not get to put the undercarriage, went it leaving after falling to both sides of her route. “An established height does not exist to gather it. The normal thing is that the “train arrives” becomes ordained two or three seconds after the rotation, when already you have sufficient height and with a positive regime of ascent”, details a pilot to ABC. From a few approaches, everything is incognito.
Who have seen the images yes assure that any motor is not appraised burning in the air, the lack power, the abrupt turn and the imbalance of the aircraft.
The little power can be due to multiple reasons: overweight, heating, failure of motor or one more a failure more serious than, in theory, must have detected in the revision of maintenance. “It surely raised to the front wheels and also the backs”, explained the minister of Promotion, Magdalena Alvarez. Sources of Civil Aviation draw attention on the failure of the motor: with the one nonoperative airplane it could have flown. They say that if that failure existed it had to take place after taking off, if the commander would not have aborted the maneuver. A human error is not discarded either. Nothing is it. Now the investigation, several parallels in fact, must be giving light all to these questions. The black boxes and the recording of security already are in the power of the Court number 11 of Madrid. One of the boxes is damaged, but the data will be able to be reclaimed equal. They are two: in one they are recorded the conversations of the members of the cabin and the outer control systems; second it is the technique, the one that operation of the motors, temperatures registers more of a hundred of parameters of the situation of the airship such as, pressures or atmospheric situation.
Collection of pieces and turbines Recovered after the wreck, they constitute one of the main probatory elements. The ones in charge to analyze them are the members of the Commission of Investigation of Accidents and Civil Aircraft incidents (Ciaiac), that depend on Promotion. Are seven civil servants, supported by personnel specialized in aerial security of the United States and the European Union and expert of the implied companies. To them he is incumbent on to them to explain all the technical part. They followed in “zone zero” picking up pieces, turbines and rest to label them yesterday and began to take the material to a room yielded in the airport. This investigation, longest in the time, comes together with other three: the corpse identification, the ocular inspection and the diligences. The team of Great Catastrophes of the Civil Guard, Scientific Police of the CNP and tens of forensic work without rest to conclude as soon as possible. The experts consider that by the traditional methods - tracks, photographic reconnaissance, identification of objects it will not be possible to put name to more than 60 or 70 victims, dice the state of the bodies; for the rest it will be necessary to resort to the DNA. The ocular inspection nothing else began to finish the rescue of victims. It has been entrusted to the central equipment of the Service of Criminology of the Civil Guard with support of his laboratories. Tens of agents are dedicated from Wednesday to take photographies in the zone, to determine the point of impact, to elaborate croquis, to mark the area in which they were scattered corpses, to separate properties, documentation, to resist each found rest. The police diligences have been ordered to the Judicial Police of the Command of Three Songs, supported by members of the Operative Central Unit. The agents will reflect in hundreds of folios the declaration of the wounded - still it has not been possible to take any; the one of the witnesses - they already are being located and being mentioned: the one of the personnel of the airport, personnel of the airline, technicians of maintenance, rescue teams. Puzzle of words to try to explain what it happened and how. The testimony of the survivors of the JK5022 will be key, whose flight plan was assigned the past to commander 17 of August. They will explain if she inquired to them into what happened, if a different maneuver were tried, if they noticed something. The last critical moment tens on agents and rescatadores lived yesterday. To 8,45 in the morning they recovered the cuerpecito burnout of a baby, covered by the weeds and the fuselage. To the 13 hours they found another minor, with the member amputees. They were those that lacked.