I completely agree with mr 777, The management are taking the P*SS out of us with these negotiations. The pension should not be linked to pay talks.
They can take the pension off me right now if they give me 500K tax free to invest in my own pension as i see fit. That is the minimum we will be losing if you look at recent retirees forecasts.
Don't try and sugarcoat it and screw us over on the cheap. I will gladly bend over for 500K.
But I will also give up ojti/aavas/my second non core sector.
If money is an issue, RENATIONALISE.
RAISE route charges.
STOP spunking money money pointless get togethers/projects that will never reach fruition.