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Old 2nd Aug 2008, 06:18
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PK-KAR
 
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This is the oldest cockpit story in the world. One guy MUST fly while the other diagnoses a problem. You can't have both of them troubleshooting. And if that guy can't keep the wings level, you MUST grab the controls, get it out of the left bank it's in, and recover. "Captain Captain Captain" is not assertive enough. State: "Captain I have the Aircraft," and do what you gotta do. But you better be right. Yes, you are probably going to loose your job. But at least you will be alive.
PK-KKW Irony #1:
F/O's voice stress level rising consistently while captain's seems to be on a roller coaster. Captain was PF.

Irony #2:
After bank angle alert, F/O put a left roll input as the plane was banking right... Captain said "Don't turn it!"

Irony #3:
F/O former fighter pilot, Captain had no upset recovery training. Captain was PF...

Irony #4:
F/O former fighter pilot, normally a hard head on CRM, but over recent years, former fighter pilots have been "humbled" in many cases, and as this case shows, resulting in lack of assertiveness. RIP.

And how many accidents/incidents have happened in Indonesia involving an F/O knowing a disaster was going to happen and did nothing/not do enough?

When ironies happen, swiss cheese holes line up, and the flag gets ironed out in case we need a half mast...

I found the last two quite well written.
Don't hope too much the previous ones are gonna be re-written or released for public.

Is there an english transcript somewhere ?
Parts are in the final report (link to it is in this topic somewhere)

But here's a draft or two based on the recording (not written by me, I have not found the time to check and edit much)...

1.07 FO “not sure” DME is working fine (on FMS display)
1.10 Capt confirmed …..”yes that was what is wrong with it”
1.12 FO Try to recognize MKS – VOR
1.32 FO Says.. if mean while got the wind direction indicates back in normal
1.53 Capt your DME is totally different with this FMS picture
1.56 Capt Expressive …If DME Indicator (dedicated) was not in agreed with the FMS Displays...
2.00 FO Says….(jokes) this aircraft become/like a wooden vessel.
2.05 FO Says…”oke we must trust with this anyway”,…
2.08 Capt (little laugh)….”yes it is,..”
2.13 Capt “it has gone too far”…..
2.15 Both pilot beginning not sure with the cross track angle become bigger and bigger
2.21 Capt Says,…”Again it was wrong with the heading,…”
2.25 Both pilot try to confirmed/established a/c position,…
While Capt says…(ask FO),.. “established report position to ATC on Radial something
……124 DME”…. (means from MKS)
2.45 Capt Says,…”something wrong with EFIS”
2.47 FO Says,….” No this FMS”
2.50 Capt Says,…”FMS is confusing themselves”
3.13 Capt Says,…“I will try IRS mode change over to ATT” (attitude reference)
<--- My edit: A/P disconnect sound
3.30 FO (open the QRH book),….”it will comes to Fault ,…?” (IRS Fault Procedure on QRH)
3.36 FO “…IRS Mode Selector,..?
3.38 Capt “…Attitude”…..
3.40 FO “…which is ‘Left’…..?
3.53 Capt “…initial called for Altitude,…..?”
3.54 FO “…enter the Heading,..?”
3.55 FO Says,…..”What it was Heading now,..Capt,..?”
3.58 Capt “…Zero,……..zero seven nine ,…ya,..”
4.00 Both pilot confirmed/agreed with the current heading 079
4.20 “Bank Angle”,……!!!........
4.22 Capt “…switch the NAV again”………..(back ground sound….still “Bank Angle”,……!)
4.23 Capt (strong Voice),…. “switch the NAV again”,…. “switch the NAV again”…!!!”
4.25 “Nnooottt”,………(Altitude ‘sign’ Warning “sound”/reminder for 1000 feet to go)
4.27 “Bank Angle”,……!!!........
4.28 Capt “…switch the NAV again”
4.29 FO (strong Voice),….”NAV,…!!!”……oke capt,…
4.33 Capt (Shout,..),…..”Don’t Turning it!!!”….
4.35 Capt (Shout,..),…..”We must keep in these Heading,..!!!”
4.39 FO (Shout,..),.”Captain,…Captain….Captain,..!!!” (ask for command control ‘side’ for MCP/FD???)
4.42 “Clack,…Clack,..clack,….!!....(“Clacker” – Over speed warning “sound”/indicates Exceeding over speed limit)
4.45 FO “….Ach,..Capt,…Capt,…!!
4.46 Capt “…Yak,..yak,…!!
4.53 Allahuakbar”…!!!.(All Mighty Allah),…..
4.55 “Allahuakbar”…!!!
4.66 “Allahuakbar”…!!!
4.57 “Allahuakbar”…!!!
4.58 “Allahuakbar”…!!!
4.59 “Allahuakbar”…!!!
5.02 strong sound noise of airframe stressed due to over speed exceeding beyond limits
5.04 strong sound noise of airframe stressed due to over speed exceeding beyond limits
5.07 “What is this,..?!!!,…..what is this,…?!!!
5.13 sound something hard impact (inside cockpit)
5.14 “Aaaaaauuuuw,…. “Allahuakbar”…!!!
5.20 “Allahuakbar”…!!!
5.27 “Allahuakbar”…!!!
5.28 “Allahuakbar”…!!!
5.33 “Allaaaaaahhhhhuuuuakbaaaaaaaar”…!!!
5.36 ………………..silent…………………….(impact point)
As a result of this recording appearing on the internet, and the NTSC has not accepted nor deny the validity of this recording (which everyone now assumes, it is not a fake), the families are now going to commence legal proceedings against Adam Air, whatever is left of Adam Air, shareholders and former shareholders of the airline, either/both in civil and/or criminal law.

The mother of one of the F/As on board has also said, she can now be at peace knowing what happened on the last few moments, thanks to recordings...

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