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Old 1st Aug 2008, 12:32
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All the examples you site are not metal machines at 29,000 feet.
At least one of the examples I cited involved a naturally-occuring phenomenom that are normally associated with cumulonimbus, a type of cloud that can be found anywhere between 2,000 - 16,000 meters altitude. If you need any help making the conversion or otherwise, please do contact Duck Rodgers!
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