I think I'm with Rainboe on this one.
I would not allow anyone without eight bar epaulettes to bang on our flightdeck door because there are seven bars in there already.
If the crew allowed this to occur I think I would relegate them to PAX.
Rotation is a critical manouvre and if if we cant hear "pos climb...gear up"
we wont be going very far.
Just my two bobs worth of course.